Nah, I’m sure it’ll be fine. It’ll be like a Fediverse Brexit …

Neat. I saw your name in the ‘Users’ list (Search -> Explore Instance -> Users).

The API needs a DB upgrade, and so right now I’m in a queue behind ‘Feeds’, which is a feature that will add some new tables. I don’t yet know what kind of upgrade it needs to be, i.e. how much things can be fudged vs. implemented properly.

'cos of the Online Safety Act - there’s a post in that community from the lemmy.zip admin.

Oh, right. Thanks. Sorry, I’m realising now that what I said was a bit of lazy assumption. I’ve just looked, and saw that Interstellar is also Flutter, so you’re a lot more likely to know than me (I’ve very new to all this). I’ll edit my post.

Yeah, the API is very similar in lots of ways. Some fields have different names (e.g. post.title instead of post.name), the ‘site’ response is a lot smaller, and there’s things like ‘activity_alert’ for subscribing to other people’s posts/comments and unsubscribing to your own (aka turning off inbox replies). Some routes aren’t covered, either because the app didn’t call them, or because there’s no back-end support (e.g. viewing Modlogs), or because I de-prioritized them for now (e.g. viewing Reports).

I’ve started doing an OpenAPI spec thing, which I’m finding tedious to create, but it should make everything clearer when it’s published.

Maybe I’ve the wrong idea. This app is a fork of Thunder (for Lemmy), and Thunder is only available on f-droid via the IzzyOnDroid repo, so I was thinking that it contained some binary blobs from Google.

An app is available now, for testing: https://piefed.social/post/484755

Whatever the views are about MBFC, Tesseract integrated it better than LW’s bot. If you don’t like MBFC, it’s just an option in your user settings to turn it off for Tesseract, whereas the bot caused a bunch of problems that weren’t even related to concerns about accuracy and bias. Drive-by bots can be annoying, because it leads people to believe there’s legit content where there isn’t, and not every client respected LW’s bot use of spoiler Markdown, so they ended up with a massive comment from it that dominated the screen.

As things are atm, Lemmy users will likely also need to also fetch this video by pasting the URL into search (there’s no backfilling, and channels still don’t seem to automatically update - e.g. see https://lemmy.ml/c/[email protected]?dataType=Post&sort=New).

If Lemmy / PeerTube inter-op was better, there’d be less need for Lemmy users to be doing what they’re currently doing with posting them separately. (It’s good that more people will see this video, but it effectively leeches votes and comments away from the original creator).

The first link in the cross-post chain is to https://piefed.social/post/413111, which is for the channel, and shows that it was made 4 weeks ago, and includes a comment from the main LW admin.

Your suspicions about this video seem off, but if you want to keep them, they should be directed at person who posted this old video into Lemmy, not the video’s author. As well as a PeerTube instance, Jeena has a PieFed instance, and it seems reasonable enough for him to use his own channel to discuss things that have affected him and are relevant at the time.

What’s even weirder is that this video was already posted to [email protected] by Jeena a month ago, and OP commented on it then. It doesn’t get picked up as a cross-post (by either Lemmy or PieFed) because PeerTube has 2 different formats for its URLs (a recent change to PieFed means they get they will do from now on, but it doesn’t apply to old posts).

I think they still need a separate user account. For one thing, a PeerTube channel is ‘attributedTo’ the user account, in the same way that Lemmy communities are ‘attributedTo’ the moderators. A Group belongs to at least one Person, it can’t belong to itself. Another is that it allows for creators to comment on videos, and either be recognised as the ‘OP’, or as a fellow content creator.

In terms of rendering things like Likes and Dislikes, it has the info in the backend, so it may as well. They don’t Announce votes like Lemmy does, you have to activitely fetch them, so the channel as it exists on PeerTube provides a definitive source. Likewise, there’s all sorts of reasons why comments get out of sync, so the channel provides an authoritative place where you should be able to see them all.

There is a friction though. I like the idea of a place that only open to people willing to create content, and isn’t interested in signups from ‘lurkers’, but providing a mobile app doesn’t seem compatible with that.

they seem to only give accounts to creators

That doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. I’ll get in trouble for saying it, but I think that PeerTube is for video channels what Lemmy should be for communities. It should be that if you want to start or moderate a community, then you sign up to Lemmy, but if you just want to interact with one, you use a user account provided by software that’s fully geared up around users (e.g. Mastodon).

Ignoring for the moment that Lemmy’s federation model hasn’t been widely adopted, and that comments from Mastodon that appear in Lemmy often have annoying Hashtag / Mention spam, my fantasy version of a post in a Lemmy community would look something like https://tilvids.com/w/wjTD7fp9qy4KmTkBdSoWyc, which was created by a PeerTube user, but has been commented on and voted for by users from Mastodon, Sharkey, PieFed, other PeerTube instances, and MBIN.

Amongst those subscribers, commenters, and voters should be Lemmy users, of course. In this thread, it feels like PeerTube is being criticised by people who want to use it in a way that it’s not designed for, because they can’t interact with it from their Lemmy account. If inter-op was better, there’d be no need to create a new account anywhere, and it would have a network effect - the channels that people are trying to discover would already have been brought in by other users, and findable through a conventional Lemmy search. Also, the votes and comments from Lemmy users that are currently going to whoever takes a PeerTube video and posts it in the likes of [email protected], would instead be going to original creator. This would also aid discovery (since people would be more likely to see the channel in ‘all’), and might have also some incentivising influence on the creator.

Basically, I blame Lemmy.

That view of The Linux Experiment is quite similar to the view from lemmy.ml, with the latest post also being from 9 months ago. I wonder if your PeerTube instance and Lemmy 0.19.x have the same problem, where “something changed” at PeerTube, and new videos stopped appearing at federated sites that didn’t change to accommodate the update. Are you running an old PeerTube version?

alien.top got people’s ire because it created a different bot account for every Reddit user, but this one just looks like it posts everything as ‘LemmyLinkBot’, with the Reddit user as the first line a post / comment.

Yeah, PieFed is more geared up for what ActivityPub terms ‘Groups’ (communities on Lemmy, magazines on Mbin, video channels on PeerTube, categories on NodeBB, certain type of blogs on WordPress, a.gup.pe groups, etc.).

Whenever we see someone from a platform like Mastodon, it’s because they’ve interacted with one of the above Group-types. There’s already a bit of inter-op that you don’t find on Lemmy - e.g. you can create a Poll for the people following you as a user, and they can vote on it - but there isn’t the ability to follow them in return, like on Mbin. I believe improvements to things like this are on the 2025 Roadmap.

This is great news.

Are the videos that were at https://peertube.wtf/c/startgametrailers lost forever? It’s no big deal, but I’ll delete 'em from https://piefed.social/c/[email protected] if they are. Thanks.

Let guess: Bot wants to use “it / its” pronouns. The same as ‘DroneRights’ did, who despite the similarly in name to ‘DragonRider’, and despite the fact that all these accounts are an obvious, boring, attack on trans rights, are all, like, totally different people.

I got the post I wrote there: https://pythag.net/post/4644

The actor thing might have just been a bug, because that post did have an actor in Create. It also doesn’t help that it seems to be a bit quiet there, unfortunately.

I’ve asked a question here: https://community.nodebb.org/topic/18547/any-plans-to-add-actor-to-create-activities-from-nodebb-users

I’ll see how it goes.

I’ve been playing around with it on my dev instance.

It’s possible to bring their forums in as communities, but they don’t supply an outbox, so it doesn’t come with any posts.

I added the ability to manually retrieve posts from there, including the ability to bring in some replies too (it’s currently set at 10). It’s quite nice that it’s convenient to also get replies (to replicate that with Lemmy, we’d need to query their API).

I subscribed to a community, but have had to hack around getting the first post that happened to show up to appear, because they don’t include an ‘actor’ in the Create object that’s embedded in the Announce. This is very unusual, and only seems to apply if the author was from nodebb, not Mastodon or Lemmy or whatever. I’ve signed up for an account there, to see if it also happens if a Create is sent directly (I suspect it does). As a new user though, I’m having to wait for my comment to be approved by a moderator (whereas with AP I can just yeet anything in there without delay).

I also spent some time banging my head against the desk, because it turns out posts from there are very similar to Poll Votes from Mastodon.

So, yeah - that’s a couple of things to chat about. It would be better if they were a bit more like other established platforms, but there’s already some inter-op: e.g. here and here

EDIT: my comment from there was approved, but nothing federated out. Looks like they have more work to do on this.