RubberDuck

Preach brother!

You forgot to set your posts language buddy.

I think I responded to the tone and then you see premise that insinuated that colonial oppressors are just using their advantage to once again oppress the poor indigenous people of wherever in yet another way. Which I don’t agree with.

The concept of the fediverse seems to be that admins host instances and are pretty welcoming to new communities… So if someone from I dunno Togo would setup a lomé or togo-politics community it would be supported. Meaning anyone from anywhere can use the infra provided to setup and moderate their communities.

If anything the system allows people more advantaged with resources (time, money, know how) to provide an open space that can be used by everyone (within reason). Without being beholden to big tech and her hidden profit driven agenda.

I would be more concerned about accessibility and usability from the perspective of a lot of people. As many countries that are still developing have limited time and access. And I don’t know if the current state of the fediverse in it’s development is of much help.

I’llIncreasing the usability of the whole ecosystem with improved clients, moderation tools etc (the stuff that fediverse users are requesting, and those devs are working on) will help.

Once it is mature, more will come. And like with tech, financed by early adopters this seems similar.

In the mean time I see people from all over the globe post stuff about many things, including national interest stuff that would otherwise have passed me by.

And I don’t see stuff posted in languages I don’t comprehend because my profile filteres them out. I don’t know if there are any Swahili/Papiamento/Mandarin/Indonesian posts on lemmy, but Lemmy supports many languages so that might be a thing.

Lastly the whole us vs them (colonial powers, oppressors etc etc) might be applicable to a lot of the world, however, garnering support for a cause by making accusations against the fediverse and the current generation of hosts and users does not help. I would advise a more constructive stance in general. If you see people actually being as you describe call them out and tell it like it is by all means, but this was not the way to get the ball rolling.

I’d probably gone with something like: the fediverse is growing, how can we help it develop in a direction better serving people in developing countries. To get them out from under the power hold and monopolies of the big tech conglomerates. … or something.

In that case I would have stuck with an answer like above… we need to foster and nurture it’s growth so it becomes a good alternative and the people will come. Plus… you know… ask people from these countries or maybe even get devs from there involved using stuff like patreon. Getting feedback from people not using your product… and finding out why they don’t is hard.

But Lemmy for example already did a solid by making sure the platform supports a looooot or languages “out of the box”.

Hope that’s better :).

For the record, I did not downvotes your reply as it deserves an actual response.

Yeah… those leeches from underdeveloped countries should be hosting fediverse servers with all that expendable income they have.

What a shit take.

Little dictators that have too much prominence and visibility are the threats. If a specific start point gets too prominent a lot of users could be redirected from good instances because of the little tyrants that run such a jump on point. Granted it can be easily routes around by offering alternative entry points, but a certain amount of prominence will impact not so Tech savvy users.

And in your assumption you have shown you already understand the fediverse more than a lot of people ever will. They will just join an instance and browse /ALL.

I think this is true, but the fediverse (as an entity) needs to prevent too much power accumulating at one point.

No way! Little dictators exercising the power they have. But it is their platform, they can do what they want right?

This is probably the biggest threat to the fediverse.

That must be excellent, someone already ate it before.

Sorry I could not resist, thanks for sharing.

That’s fair. I think most people can make up their own minds looking at the thread, posts contents and then their own experience in the .ml scape compared to the rest of Lemmy.

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LoL… project much?

Judging from your post history, you calling me names is something I’ll wear as a badge of honor.

As I stated in my preface, no thank you.

And if it is contained in their instance… it does not matter that the borders are guarded by deFederation.

The denial of having seen it yourself, is something I don’t believe. Therefore I don’t believe you made your reply in good faith.

Not all of lemmy.ml is a cesspool filled with poisonous cretins, but they (tankies) control the instance at conversational, moderation and administration level. So it will not change, only get worse.

Just like we see with the MAGAts… Once you start drinking your own coolaid… the sky is the limit.

Is it though? As the moderation sets the tone and defines what is allowed conversation. By simply denying truth, they are guilty of the same “alternative facts” shit the trump camp is guilty of… and that is pretty damn dangerous for everyone.

And unfortunately by setting an instance to block I still have to deal with their scummy Userbase all over the fediverse. deFederation removes that too. It is a solution to the issue. Just like we won’t accept people coming on here and spouting actual nazi propaganda, an instance under the control of authoritarian apologists should not be kept around simply because they run a large instance.

I think the issue is way bigger than hexbear, or maybe they are mask off on hexbear. But hexbear, lemmygrad and lemmy.ml can be their own little island archipelago for all I care. If this helps people not have to deal with these idiots.

Keep calling everyone fascists and trump-ets, it does not help your argument.

What people, what authoritarian measure?

You mean it is strange that sane, normal people want to stop authoritarian/totalitarian fanboys from spreading hatefull falsehoods, stifling dissent using bans and heavy moderation? By using the tools at their disposal and telling these smegheads to f- off? Plenty of speech is deemed unacceptable: holocaust denial, swatstikas, from the river to the sea, white power, just to name a few.

Well if that is your idea of what should be acceptable, we disagree. The Overton window should remain in the middle and not be allowed to stretch to include these extremist views. Not from the “right” or “left”.

What? That is just a silly argument.

People are discussing destructive moderation by .ml mods. And the damage this is causing to the community. And you go and turn it around by accusing .world of destruction of Lemmy in the hypothetical situation that consequences are connected to behavior of .ml mods and admins.

I believe the term for this is gaslighting?

So what if it is the original? Bad moderation, combined with idolation of authoritarianism is some poisonous stuff.

The question is if admins are willing to have an open conversation about the moderation and content.

But deFederation is a fine solution. Then the admins on .ml have their way and they can have their little hermit kingdom without any dissenting views. And we can go on with out lives without their bile in our feeds and threads.

Asking for proof of what is an open secret on lemmy seems disingenuous.

I think that instances like hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml are very bad advocates for Lemmy and will most likely end up damaging it more than anything else, keeping the “normies” out.

They argue in Bad faith, say the most radical stuff they can think of, and purge anything bad said about totalitarian regimes they idolize. China, Russia, Iran, all considered victims of the evil west…

• Uyghur camps > not happening
• Tiannamen square > Just some peaceful protests
• invasion of Ukraine > NATO forced Russia to do it

Nice read! Also really cool he took the time to write this out for other admins.