There is also the consideration that ATPro has a community that’s both larger and less technical, so it would be harder to move them here than the other way around. I’m thinking the direction to go might be ActivityPub servers that can route things between ATPro personal data stores, but obviously I’m still learning.
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There’s been a definite tinge of ideology or at least gatekeeping to some of these responses, but that’s to be expected. FOSS has always had a streak of it.
It’s a bit ironic to use ActivityPub to say ActivityPub has no real applications, though.
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I mean, it doesn’t have to be part of the standard (it could just as well be Lemmy-specific), but no built-in way to move accounts sucks. AT protocol provides a nice little solution for that.
I didn’t have that one little detail about how demanding a relay is to run. Thankfully, this thread has been illuminating.
It’s still a bummer that Lemmy doesn’t provide any non-hack way to move your account to a new instance.
Ah yes, the wonders of OSS documentation.
Leaving aside all the work they did making an alternative more to their liking, that kind of implies it’s like a light switch, and it’s not.
Yep, probably. People are just going to have to get used to it to certain degree, and to a certain degree there’s going to be .world-type instances that act as a user-friendly default.
There’s other issues at play, of course, which is more why I asked.
Oh? Complicated, fragile, something else?
Yep. What do you think the chances are you could write something that does the job of the router and app view, but in a totally off-standard, more point-to-point way?
In the meanwhile, it’s just a matter of bridging, I guess.
It’s a good blog post, thanks. I made a quick summery elsewhere in the thread.
It’s really unfortunate that we’ve ended up with two populated protocols for federation, both of which have a major flaw. In our case, it’s no established support for moving accounts. In theirs, its a component that’s so bulky the federatability is questionable (and no federated DMs).
Thank you!
TL;DR, the relay bit works as a completely connected network topology, and has the associated quadratic growth issues, which renders it, like you said, hard to host.
Also nasty: Direct messages are just not federated.
Other things are or were at the time of writing janky, but nothing else is quite that egregious. The author is working on a separate project, and recommends this idea as a solution for portable identity on ActivityPub; here’s what “object capability” means in the context.
Bets all in? Okay:
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I have not looked directly at the AT standard, just the Wikipedia article and some similar high-level explanation.
Pretty sure I have actually looked at the ActivityPub standard at times, though.
Really? In what way?
Digital identities being cryptographic and independent of any one instance is huge all on it’s own. The rest of it I understand less clearly, but it looks pretty modular.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgOPto PieFed Meta@piefed.social•You might want to make this meta community more obvious.1·1 year agoThat’s a frontend question I’m too much of a backend gremlin to competently answer, haha!
With that warning, yeah, a distinguished meta/"help with PieFed* topic could be good. On LemmyNet there’s a “local” page, which is the default, so people are nudged towards looking around on their own instance first. However, I get the feeling you’re trying to expose the most active communities right off the bat as part of UX.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgto Technology@beehaw.org•Majority of Americans Would Like to Return to Time Before Cell Phones, Internet, According to New PollEnglish2·2 years agoSo what if some town somewhere were to ban cellphones?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgto Technology@beehaw.org•European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batteries11·2 years agoMe too, but that one might be dead for good.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgto Technology@beehaw.org•European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batteries3·2 years agoI bet it would, depending on the definition of “removable”. A casually removable cover that’s also waterproof usually involves a rubber seal that can fail a bunch of ways. On the other hand, shrink-wrapping the electrical parts of a phone all together is cheap and nearly foolproof.
If they allow batteries that can be replaced with specialised but available tools that might be a nice middle ground.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgto Technology@beehaw.org•European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batteries3·2 years agoIs blanket forbidding glued parts practical? It’s the obvious simple way to attach some things. I’m not sure if the tools even exist to package a wafer with just screws, for example.
Of course, this is the EU and they’ve shown themself capable of legislating away only the dumb parts of an industry.
Yes it does. You have a little cake next to your username, kind of the same way as on old Reddit.