There was drama?

I know we’re talking about a time before a lot of young adults were born, but comparing the closure of a federated instance to what happened to a lot of people and families on 9/11 is actually pretty fucked up.

Edit: Alright. Apparently some atrocities are okay because other atrocities happen, too. Love you guys.

Trollfare between popular instances leads to irl confrontations and wild accusations spread across media. Throwing illegal content up onto adversarial instances in community raids becomes a standard way of “swatting” that instance and getting it taken down and posted across the news. Governments start taking over major instances and using it to disseminate fake news and propaganda leading to further polarization and confrontation. Governments set up their own instances with communities for various branches of government. Eventually joining any federated instance requires a government federation account, and your citizenship status dictates where and to what extent you’re allowed to participate. Spies are sent into various instances to try and gain political power and influence. Corporations buy up all the biggest instances and eventually the software it runs on. All data is collected and sold.

I don’t think this matters. If they are defederated from an instance you post in, then they determined that they don’t want to see what gets posted there. Why is it so important to reach everyone?

(To be fair, I think you should be able to post the same thing 10 times if you really want to, I just wish the site I use had a feature that would just automatically pool all posts with identical headings or links into a single post, then treat it like a mini community/magazine.)

OP should have been standing when telling others what to do. It takes only a second, and it’s better for their figure. Stand up, commit. That’s it.

I think it’s kind of funny reddit is essentially hosting a billboard for the fediverse at the moment.

More like Fed-erect! ;)

I’d say any automated/integrated effort to direct users of federated instances to the threads site to view content should count as a strike. (Such as needing to go directly to the threads site to view an image that could be easily posted anyway.)

So should any automated/integrated effort to encourage users to make their own threads account. (Such as needing an account to visit this link or view this image.)

Any attempt to coerce non threads users to sign any sort of agreement or TOS with threads.

As well as any data collection on non threads users. Merely interacting with a federated threads account should not entitle meta to any data collection of that user.

Thanks! My wife made it for me.

Lol whatever you’re having, I don’t want it.

You mean a “discussion”? Yeah I suppose that’s for the best. Best of luck to you on your frolic through the fediverse!

I have faith in this as well.

I think most people are here because we don’t really like groups like Meta. We existed before, and I believe we can persist without. Meta is going to have Facebook/instagram/whatsapp integration in threads that will require us to visit their site and/or link accounts to view. I think we might as well just defederate at that point.

I think it’s worth noting that many more of us are aware of EEE than in the past, and while meta is very well known, it’s also kind of infamous. While some services have brand loyalty, meta kind of has a mix of brand apathy or brand repulsiveness to a lot of people. I think the most loyalty you might find would be in people who purchase into the quest ecosystem, or are avid users of Instagram.

I think enough of us are aware of the circumstances that when Meta eventually does start taking steps towards the “extension” phase, they’re going to get called out immediately, and communities are going to better able to resist than in the past.

You’re right. Reviewing ownership of all instances might be a bit unreasonable.

How about we just focus on the ones that stand out for things such as mass surveillance, conducting social experiments on their users, taking over markets, buying out competition, and influence upon genocidal political movements?

Does that seem a little more manageable?

• User content
• Other data

As much as it already frustrates me how much they surveil their own users, these two concern me personally. I guarantee meta will feel 100% entitled to not only their own users’ content, but that of federated posters as well. Without any kind of privacy guarantee as a federated contributor, I don’t think Meta should federated with just yet.

Hey I teach English to refugees as a volunteer. The reality of being an irl refugee is so far detached from what’s going on here that I just can’t fathom the propensity for a refugee to navigate their way into federated forum instance and then suddenly feel unwelcome because people are using an English term in a way that doesn’t directly apply to them.

I work with people who are trying to learn how to get a bus ticket, how to write their names on a piece of paper to get a job, wondering if they’ll ever be able to see their family or if there’s any point in trying to succeed in a new country where they’re barely getting fair access to the same rights as the rest of us. If you really want to do something meaningful for refugees, you could do a lot more than try to police how people talk in some random forum on the web.

Of course it depends on the person, but ensuring that only they are refugees and nobody else is might actually be more harmful than you think. They need community, and seeing the label thrown around in a bit of light hearted fellowship could teach someone to not be disheartened by it.

Nevertheless, just to humor you, I believe “migrant” would be a better word for most users here because many of us just moved away from reddit in search of a better alternative voluntarily. 3rd party app developers, and the users who were forced off of reddit because they needed those apps to interact with it, could be labeled as “displaced”. Mods & users who actually got proactively threatened or outright banned could appropriately be referred to as “refugees”.

I wonder if fediverse platforms can introduce support for exporting/importing a json list of subscriptions and follows so you can at least transfer/share those on your own.

This is probably a pipe dream, but I’d like to see a feature where any number of articles in a single user’s feed that shares the same exact link just gets grouped together into a “super magazine” or something.

• You’d only see either the earliest or most local instance of the link on your feed with an indicator of it’s “super magazine” status.
• When you click on a super magazine, you’d see just one link and a federated list of all the articles that included it. Each item in the list would mention who posted it and where it was posted.
• Clicking on one of the items in the article list would set which comment section you access. (Or screw it, just federate all the comments into one massive comment section. Toggling an item from the article list would only set which article you’d post a new thread to.)

The ABXY layout was really nice. With the modern standard, there is often some mix up as to which button is “accept” and which is “cancel”. The GameCube controller, with its big Mashable A button left nothing to interpretation. The X and Y buttons were comfortably placed as well.

Hey, I might actually play starfield now!