Why are you even here? If you want zuck to gluck your throat so bad go suck him off on his own website.

Stop running interference for evil.

Coward won’t post somewhere we can downvote him.

we have literally no info about this product.

That is flagrantly untrue. We know it is being made by Meta.

Not only is interacting with Meta qua interacting with Meta a harm to people who do it, a “wait and see” approach grants legitimacy to a known bad actor.

Are you of the opinion there is not a tiny possibility the heat given off by a fox might make the chickens in a hen house warmer?
You should still not even consider risking the death of all (or any) of your chickens.

Is there not a tiny possibility a tumor might make somebody’s tits look bigger?
You still try to prevent people rubbing cobalt on your chest.

Is there not a tiny possibility that … Meta brings … a net positive

No. There is not. 0% chance.

Who’s to say nazis aren’t meeting in secret right now? You still punch them in their fashy faces when they try to hold rallies on the street.

There is a cost to being relegated to the shadows we should be eager to make them pay.

There is likewise a value to people seeing Meta shunned.

Just because, “they could do it anyway” doesn’t mean we should resign ourselves to them doing it openly much less collaborate with their doing it.

they simply can’t have enough information, because no one has that right now

Wait, are you saying there’s a chance Meta isn’t Meta?

Because I’m at least 99.9% sure of that information, and if accurate there is no need for any further information.

If you have reason to suspect that Meta somehow aren’t themselves, but candy unicorns, please tell me. That kind of intel would be pertinent.

What I’m saying is…

in the name of growing the Fediverse.

Perhaps then we should all federate with Gab and Truth and whatever instance DeSantis ends up spinning up to organize his brownshirts?
…in the name of growing the Fediverse, of course.

If—as I believe you do—you disagree with that proposition, then perhaps you hold there are certain standards of behavior which once seen do not necessitate further waiting. I would question if that is indeed the case why you seemingly do not believe Meta has already crossed that line.

I understand your desire for “success”, “acceptance”. “More potential friends” on our these frothy FOSSy seas. I do. I get that.
You are not wrong to want more people to join up.

Letting in Meta is not how you do that.

If you had a house party, and you wanted it "more bumpin’ " you might think the obvious answer is “More people = good so let in anyone who’s willing to attend.”

It is not.

Certain people—and specifically I’m thinking of Artie the Arsonist—need to be prevented from attending.

Not only should Artie and his shloshing gas can (which in fairness he has promised not to use) be turned away at the door, some of your trusted friends with guns should be stationed at either end of the street keeping Artie from coming anywhere near your party.

There should be a big giant, “ARTIES NOT ALLOWED” banner reassuring your guests (and future potential guests) that in addition to sweet tunes and chips, another reason to attend this party specifically is that they won’t be burned as they have been so many times by Artie and his friends.

Meta wanting in is not a sign of FOSS success.
We do not gain anything as the "not twitter"s, "not facebook"s of the world by allowing ourselves to be co-opted back into the sinking systems we escaped.

This is an attack, and the very idea of waiting and seeing by itself is damaging to FOSS—the main selling point of which thus far has been an Artie-absent space. Even considering letting him get close enough to sniff because “…maybe he won’t reek of gas” is offputting to many and damages the most valuable asset the fediverse has: having nothing to do with Those Fuckos Over There.

Assent of what FOSS is doing by the brokers/shakers it was designed in opposition to cannot change FOSS’s value because THEY do not determine that.

The people who would sell your eyeballs out your skull and plant He Gets Us chips into your brain need you. You do not need them.

there isn’t any indication that they’re modifying the standard

There is an indication they are Meta.

Any other info is superfluous. Their being Meta is an adequate reason to preemptively shun them.