Yes that’s what I meant by degrading user experience

I think the best solution there is so far is to require captcha for every upvote but that’d lead to poor user experience. I guess it’s the cost benefit of user experience degrading through fake upvotes vs through requiring captcha.

Run! It’s the Feds!

Would they though? I mean whoever hasn’t left Meta yet isn’t swayed by their antics and Meta is essentially promising too add more content by leeching off of fediverse

Well ok we don’t know what’s actually happening and our mental models of people and companies differ ever so slightly. Not enough to discern on itself but enough that in this scenario the differences compound and we arrive to different conclusions. The reality is probably going to be somewhere in the middle of our scenarios. I do however think that the fediverse should err on the side of Meta being very dangerous because the alternative will catch us without options.

Why? From Who?

From everyone like right now where there’s a bunch of bugs and wants to have certain tools for moderation. Just look at how many issues have been added to lemmy in the past 3 weeks. And that’s just a fraction of Reddit users joining. Having millions of Facebook users being able to interact with lemmy will likely expose many more bugs and show the need for more moderation.

Same applies to your question about the troll wave - they are currently coming from Reddit. And once Meta joins - more fediverse exposure will let more people know of fediverse, and those new people will have trolls among them.

What are the chances that this is something so significant that people would be willing to switch software over it?

Meta has been in the market of attracting people for a long time. Don’t underestimate their R&D . People on Reddit used to join subs just for having certain bots. Meta can easily bring a ChatGPT bot to lemmy for example. Again this might not attract you but you have to think about the average person.

I think your one good argument against my scenario is defederation. Unlike XMPP the fediverse is already gaining critical mass where defederation can be a viable option. But again I’m sure Meta R&D can “help” with it

Example: Meta federates with lemmy. Lemmy is small so it gets more feature requests than it can code up. Meta comes in and looks at the most requested feature that’s been put on lemmy’s backlog. Let’s say it’s some mod tool. Maybe even AI mod tool that sorts comments based on sentiment analysis. And they only implement that feature for Meta clients - not for lemmy. Suddenly mods have a choice - use lemmy and face flood of trolls in their communities or move to Meta and be able to properly moderate those troll waves. Some will stay, some will move. Another new cool feature for Meta, some will stay, some will move. Eventually most users will be on Meta client because it has all these useful features. OP’s article describes the rest.

I’m confused… the list provides apps to read rss… But no rss sources?

Just a side note, ActivityPub protocol - the core engine that lets all of fediverse to talk to the rest of the fediverse is… 5 years old. Every feature imaginable is still to be implemented.

I’m sure the automation just looks for keywords so pass the link through a url shortener and not say lemmy or beehaw in main text.

Well if only bots are talking, mods can be bots too. /r/SubredditSimulator will just take over the whole Reddit

Sure but dissing on languages you don’t like will only make devs who like those languages defensive. Not every dev is good only at languages you’re good at.

Let’s not hate on tools. Php has its uses and has been proven to be useful in commercial applications. So has Rust. They are different but the choice of programming language means nothing for the core project.

Could it be something like CPU generated just enough heat to be passively cooled and having hdmi plugged in causes use of pci and the CPU heats up ever so slightly to trigger the need for cooling?

I think the trouble with human oversight is that it’s still going to keep whatever bias the overseer has.

I wonder if it’s possible to bring public opinion into the error function - find weights for ChatGPT such that the next token is predicted correctly but also such that the overall output falls within the public average opinion… But then - is that a “good enough” metric?

Link aggregatorinator!

If Facebook still exists, Reddit and Twitter are likely too big to fail too. They might not make what they used to at their peak, but as long as the site isn’t fully abandoned they’ll get their revenue

Come check out beehaw.org it’s a lemmy instance.