CleoTheWizard

I think that this can easily be mitigated by the addition of transferable user profiles. Because the easier it is to hop off of a server and move to another, the better. You lose those communities in the event of a split, but then you desire new ones on your new instance and go join them. It would heal the UX much faster.

Like other users, I expect this will largely become a rarer and rarer occurrence as moderation levels out. We’re very early in the game still.

One thing I haven’t seen talked about is the benefit of this defederation. When beehaw defederated, what happened immediately? A lot of noise was made. The mods got in contact and opened dialog. Communities desired federation. While that’s interpreted as entitlement, I think it’s possible beneficial to keep the number of defederation events low and only done when necessary.

Well then the person is going to screw up your order and have to relay it back to you anyways. Ordering through apps is the way to go imo.

Huh okay yeah that’s fair. I guess I’m thinking more about the time span since that game engine is now well over a decade old whereas the previous examples are separated by a handful of years. And I didn’t know about them putting a ‘2’ in front of it for Starfield.

I mean that they haven’t changed it from the Creation engine. Which has been used since Skyrim despite some big rewrites for Fallout and I’m sure more big rewrites or additions for Starfield

It’s also a personal choice of Bethesda not to rename their engine. Many other studios do this same thing and reuse engines, but they often rename them after significant rewrites. Bethesda just doesn’t do that.

Also they aren’t worried about how the game will be released. Their games have legs. So a 60fps version will eventually come out. Then they’ll release it 5 more times.

Can’t believe they laid their own landlord off.

Is it crashing and burning if it aligns with their explicitly stated goals? Seems like they’re sticking to their guns and having a well moderated community by doing this. Some people will want that, some won’t. But if we want this federation thing to work, we can’t start whining about instances making choices about what their users interact with. If anything I’m glad this is happening early so that people can see how the federation stuff will play out and get used to the idea.

I think a good portion will do both frankly. Half will go elsewhere or reduce usage. Half will stay like nothing happened.

I think that stating it as 48 hours was smart. Because if subreddits start saying it’s indefinite, then they have time to start replacing mods and shutting the protest down. Whereas here, 48 hours will pass. They lose a lot of money in just 2 days. And if nothing changes, you’ll likely see decreased quality and/or continued protest.

I think it left room at the table for reddit to cooperate. It’s a common bargaining thing.

I don’t know if it will ever fall or fail, but I think the days of reddit being a place for the future of the internet to happen is over. People just plain don’t trust the site anymore.

Like why build fun tools for it? Why help moderate a community? Why do anything on reddit if the post quality is insanely low, bots are everywhere, and trolls have taken over.

Companies do this a lot. They sacrifice good will and community for money because it can’t easily be put down on a profit graph. So reddit seems fine to burn most of their genuine community to make a profit. And that’s fine, they’ll go elsewhere.

My hope is that somewhere like lemmy can stop the need to keep changing platforms.

I can see it on mobile with jerboa so I don’t think so

They definitely don’t take up less room. 1tb is still manageable tho. Enough to handle 5 or so AAA games or more and then also some indies. Most users won’t need that much extra at the moment

I can’t exactly go into why this isn’t possible in the short term, but it’s extremely unlikely that reddit could effectively moderate things automatically in the near future.

I mean hell, look at youtubes comment section.

And they don’t have the money to pay moderators. As spez said, they aren’t profitable (only thing I believe him on btw). I seriously think that spez has entered a Putin-type situation where he has very few opportunities to keep his job right now.

This is easy to do for one subreddit. And it’s a large one. Would easily need 10+ mods to keep it running. But if a few of these large subreddits revolt, I don’t think reddit can simply replace them all.

Not only that but I think replacing the entire mod team would cause a revolt anyways. Tensions are extremely high