Oh yea absolutely. The point of going elsewhere is not for more privacy. The point is to make the content here neutral and in a sense unsellable. Nobody can buy your data on the fediverse, cause it’s just there, freely given. Anyone can access it, so nobody can sell it.

I don’t think this is a problem. If the communities are similar enough, one will eventually win and be the bigger and main one. If they are different enough, they can continue coexisting.

I personally still feel like this brings the communities too close.

the Lemmy devs are very much against merged comments

For good reason perhaps? It merges distinct communities together, making communities less distinct. Different communities can have different moderation and participation standards and norms. Merging them I feel is a bad idea.

We ought to moderate well and do better than elsewhere though. Well, at least I would hope that users would gravitate towards instances that moderate their users better, so we get more civil behavior.

Yea wtf? That seems insanely low. There’s no way they can keep up with all content right? At least they can only be reactionary right, like when reports are made?

Yea okay… Not sure what the point is of not just explaining it clearly 🤔

They don’t actually explain what this is anywhere.

Yea I’m thoroughly confused, what even is this? Is it open source, code anywhere?

It’s weird to talk about the fediverse as a whole having a civility problem. The fediverse is a large and diverse place.

It’s like asking “do bars have a civility problem?”. And like yea, some bars do. Other bars don’t. Depends on the clientele right?

For example, on Feddit.dk we have quite a high standard of behavior and moderation is based on that. Feddit.dk is not a large instance, which probably makes it easier to manage. I would not say that Feddit.dk has a civility problem. Maybe other instances do. But then that’s a problem for those instances to solve.

So I wouldn’t say the fediverse itself has a civility problem. To me, it seems perfectly possible to moderate an instance well and preserve civil behavior. If there is a civility problem, it lies with the specific instance that has that problem and their failure to moderate that behavior.

Perhaps you’re right, but this is what I’m most comfortable with.

The vision (which is also still WIP) right now is a platform that combines the features of Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. Something that can interface with all existing fediverse services and handle all kinds of media (posts, discussions, microblogs, pictures, videos, anything, you name it). Ideally it should also be a place where you can bring your friends list and maybe even have a personal (non-anonymous) user. Imagine something that can replace Facebook, Twitter and Reddit all in one fell swoop. That’s the general idea.

Now, that’s just the idea but a lot of it depends on execution. If you’re truly interested, I’d love to talk more on Matrix to see if there’s some shared alignment. Obviously I have a certain vision for the project so there needs to be some shared understanding of the direction. Technology-wise, the backend is Rust and the (very WIP) frontend is TypeScript/SvelteKit. But non-technical contribution can be valuable too.

It does - but I’m honestly also still refining that vision as I work on it and I want to have a coherent story and something to show before I show anything to the world. Just what I’m most comfortable with :)

I’d rather ensure that I have something a bit more concrete to show before I “announce” it. First impressions matter a lot. And also, there’s just not a whole lot to show right now and it is not in any kind of usable state so unless someone is truly interested in working with me on this project (with a somewhat similar idea of a vision of where it’s gonna go and all that…), there’s really no use in sharing it.

Great!

I feel the state of the project is still too early to be public (especially the frontend, there’s really almost nothing there yet), but I can invite you to the repo if you have a user on Codeberg? I’d love to talk if you have a Matrix user.

I’m working on a new fediverse software but I’m mostly a backend dev. But I have been learning Svelte/Kit to try and write a frontend. Just putting it out there in case you feel inspired to work on something entirely new :)

(Piefed will probably replace Lemmy as the go-to eventually)

I think rather we’ll see more software popping up and diversifying the ecosystem. Then you can pick whichever you prefer. Which is the whole point of the fediverse. I’m currently working on my own implementation. Might take a long while before any alpha version as I’m super busy but I try to do at least a bit of work on it every day.

I actually would really love to hear how “right to be forgotten” applies to an email you’ve sent. I mean you can’t force anyone to delete an email you’ve sent to them, so how does right to be forgotten even apply for emails?

The fediverse would work in the same way, I think.

No. In fact, ActivityPub has no general mechanism for even knowing where content has been distributed to. So when you ask your instance to delete something, it can’t actually know what other instances to ask to delete the mirrored content.

Mastodon tries its best by sending deletion requests to all known instances, in the hope that that will reach all instances that have fetched the content. But in fact, instances that are unknown to your own instance could have the content as well, though this is probably a very rare occurrence.

Bottom line: Don’t write anything on the internet that you don’t want publicly displayed. Anyone can save it and then you can’t force them to delete it. That applies to the entire internet. It also applies to the fediverse.

This also presumes mods are, by default, inherently non-biased, held to a standard, and never have vendettas of their own.

Of course mods are not always like that. But if mods are like that, just go to another community. If mods are bad, just leave. On the fediverse, you “vote” with where you participate.

Yea it’s still only a partial solution. Even those feeds could get very active over time (we can hope 😅). The way Piefed implemented feeds is interesting but seems almost overengineered? Sharing feeds could have been done via a simple query parameter I feel like.