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Cake day: June 30th, 2023

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  • The fediverse has some resilience built in. As users have a back up account. As an admin with concerns of government control, have a playbook to be able to pass off control of the instance to another admin in a different jurisdiction and that they can restore the instance to a new provider from backups.

    As for stopping corporate interference: making sure bad actors like meta can’t federate, good moderation practices, and anti bot defenses. Intelligence sharing between instance admins, cooperation not competition.


  • I don’t know if your changed your view on the issue after getting more context on carrotcypher’s histoy on Reddit but I’d like to share some of my quick thoughts

    1. I don’t think it’s probably fair to characterize him as a nazi but I do think it’s fair to find some of his views objectionable

    2. He let his personal politics influence his moderation decisions outside of posted community rules. It’s bad moderation when Lemmy.ml doesn’t it and it’s bad when he does it,

    3. Removing him as moderator is appropriate based on number 2 moreso than number 1

    4. Defederation from FOSStodon is a nuclear reaction that I don’t personally agree with but it’s a freedom that the fediverse is built on. Zealously demanding all (non-malicious) instances remain federated is a bad thing as much as zealously defederating from instances that don’t have the right politics.

    I often find myself outside the “acceptable viewpoints” on the fediverse and it hasn’t really affected me other than getting a few downvotes once in a while. The fediverse isn’t actually as ideologically pure as we think it is, I think the constant tankie/liberal drama is proof of that.


  • Some people are willing to go against their own personal wants and desires if the majority of the community agrees. They may do it because they believe in democratic principles and whatever it is may be not what they want but doesn’t cross the their “line-in-the-sand” of what they are willing to do in service of their community.

    And when it does finally cross that line, people will step down like Kevin has done. I may not agree with the democratically elected government of America right now but I am still an American. You don’t have to agree 100% with the community to still be a member










  • No disagreement that there are many more insufferable people on Reddit and twitter. But whenever meta discussion comes up about leaving those sites such as [email protected] there is always a small handful of people that mention they were banned for “disagreements”. Not to mention the meta drama between .ml users and .world users.

    With regards to Dansup, the most common complaints I see are developing Loops closed source and not opening it to federation and still not open sourcing it after 6 months. And with Pixelfed being developed with laravel instead of a stack that is more scalable.



  • Just because the average user doesn’t consider whether they should trust the platform, doesn’t mean the fediverse is less trustworthy. It’s not. Nothing online should be considered trustworthy if it’s not encrypted.

    You still have to consider whether Facebook is trustworthy with your posts and click data, whether the thousands of advertisers they sell your info too are trustworthy. Whether the persons you message are trustworthy and that they won’t get hacked.

    About the same risks as with trusting a fediverse instance operator except they don’t have the same motivations to sell your data.

    I’m not sure if you are aware of fediblock which allows instance operators to coordinate banning and defederating bad actors from the network. And of course you can always mute or block any user or instance you wish independently of your instance’s block list.

    Your data being leaked to “malicious servers” in this case also requires approving a follow to a user on that instance or having your profile set to public (and at that point you should expect your content to be public)

    I do think you are right that it is a paradigm shift of thinking for new users who aren’t familiar with federation. But I think anyone who wants to join will just either have to give up control to big platforms and stay put or shift their thinking.


  • When I first started the reading I figured the person being bullied was the woman who was upset with dan because her concern about disclosure wasn’t really reasonable. I don’t think the bullying problem is innate to the fediverse, and thankfully we have a lot of tools to safely navigate the fediverse and tune out the abuse.

    But there is a not insignificant portion of folks on here that are here because they were banned or warned on mainstream platforms because they couldn’t regulate themselves and still aren’t regulating themselves.

    The vast majority of people I’ve came across are genuinely kind. Dansup doesn’t exactly follow best practices in his development which I think causes a lot of strife in the segment of the fedi population who can’t regulate when someone does something they don’t agree with.

    I don’t agree with how he has handled loops so I just don’t use it. I don’t think ill of Dan at all.