No

With a service that size, they’re gonna have to move slow, make sure things don’t break, and try to minimize downtime.

I would like to make a few counterpoints to yours from the opposite perspective.

To your first point: Nearly everyone here came from Reddit’s API fiasco. We all already left the place that housed the vast majority of the content and went somewhere much slower and quieter. If Threads were to abandon ActivityPub in the future, we would still have the same users who are here now, and if returning the fediverse to it’s current level of activity is to be considered a death sentence for it, wouldn’t that mean we’re already doomed? Things are stable right now though and we have enough activity to sustain a social network as is, so the loss of Threads content wouldn’t be our downfall unless a majority of our current users decide its too quiet without them. However, I wouldn’t expect the group who left all of Reddit’s content behind to be the type who would also abandon their accounts here just because the Threads users aren’t here again.

As for the second and third points, the beauty of ActivityPub is that it allows users to choose the services they want to use in order to access the same content across the fediverse, and it wouldn’t be right for us to try to dictate how others choose to access an open protocol. If someone who is interested in joining the network decides to do so through Threads, that should be their choice to make, even though I personally think its the wrong one. In all likelihood though, someone making an account on Threads wouldn’t have consciously joined the wider fediverse of their own volition anyway. Once they’re on though and have a chance to maybe learn a little about these “third party services” they see, they’ll make their way to these places instead. Exposure to the fediverse is the best way to understand it from my experience. There have also been a whole host of people who already signed up for Mastodon accounts without understanding a thing about what a federated network entails, they just wanted out of Twitter.

I don’t think its right to view ActivityPub as competition to mainstream social media networks, it’s a tool meant to help build a better unified social media network. If we limit who can use the tool, we’ll only be hindering the growth of the fediverse.

A much more reasonable assumption to make

Kbin is a nice alternative. Content cycles out of Hot a lot faster on here.

You also get microblogging support on here, so you have access to the Mastodon side of the fediverse as well without having to copy and paste links.

I never actually looked this up before. I think in my head I’ve been reading it as being short for “eggsample” this whole time

One of my favorite things about the app is how it always conforms so perfectly to whatever Google’s design guidelines are at the time. Makes it feel coherent, like it really belongs on the phone.

I couldn’t exactly make sense. Guy claims Fire Fish is trademarked already and decides to fork it to change the name to Ice Shrimp in bad faith due to prior beef with Fire Fish dev.

They managed to do this through the custom emoji renderer? Exploits are always so fascinating.

I think kbin and Threads will probably have more interaction than Threads and Lemmy because of the native microblogging support in kbin. That puts them more or less on the same field.

I might be missing your point since I never used it, but looking around their website and reading Wikipedia, it doesn’t look like a dead standard. Looking from the outside in, it seems like Google adopted the protocol and brought a lot of new users with them, and when they dropped it in 2013, they took those users with them again.

It does feel very similar to ActivityPub today, but in a way that seems to support the point I was making. Correct me if im wrong, but it seems the people using XMPP through Google Talk signed up to use a Google service, while those who joined through independent providers did it for XMPP itself. Even with Google gone, it looks like those other providers continue to function and the protocol remains relevant to the people who want to use it, similar to ActivityPub right now.

If that happens, won’t we just be back to how things are now? People like you and me who are already here probably won’t be making accounts on Threads, it will be pulling in new people who wouldn’t have joined the fediverse otherwise. If they break something in their implementation of ActivityPub, we’ll just be separated from them again which doesn’t seem different from the current situation. The open source ActivityPub protocol we all currently rely on cant be taken away, so the independent instances we’re already using should be fine too.

I think it’s a valid take to have. If it makes it possible to follow more people from my Mastodon account who I want to follow, that seems like a good thing. I won’t be making an account there, but I think I’d like to at least have the option to follow the people who do.

Kbin wasn’t hit by the bot creation wave because it doesn’t have a working API yet. Lemmy is the easier entry point for bot development at the moment.

What’s the difference between “sunny side up” and fried egg? They look very similar.

It reminded me of what happens when you search for “askew” on Google.

I’m glad to have gotten my username on most services. Wish I could get it on Xbox Live though.