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People who are affected by the hate speech, can easily chose one of the many instances that are curating and censoring

And they do. And thus you will not see them, if you are in a space that does not remove hate-speech. You can join multiple spaces if you want, that’s fine. But if you are choosing a single space, then you can choose one or the other. The voices of many diverse groups of people, or that one single repetition of fear of the other.

Well you know, the same is said by both sides, and on both sides people always find a way to justify their stance and portray the other side as the worst evil, while the reality is in between.

Please try actually reading, and thinking about what is written, rather than just typing out the first thought-terminating cliche that comes to mind. It’s really difficult to take such nonsense seriously.

Thing is, if you actually want to hear a diverse range of opinions, it’s in your best interest to listen in places that remove hate-speech.

Because spaces that allow hate speech are at best unpleasant, and at worst actively unsafe, for the people who that hate-speech is aimed at. So those people, those large and diverse groups of people, will not speak freely in those spaces. They will leave those spaces. And so you will not hear their perspectives.

And basically all hate-speech is same idea. It is a rephrasing of one, single thought: “Those others, who are different to us, are inferior, and a threat to our way of life.”

There is no such thing as a space where all ideas can co-exist, you must choose: Either you can hear the voices of a diverse group of people with varied life-experiences. Or you can hear the voices of an increasingly narrow segment of the population who are supportive of bigotry against those diverse people.

You aren’t going to find an instance that both tolerates hate-speech, and is federated with mostly everyone. That’s not how that works. Sorry, you cannot have your cake, and eat it too.

Federation is a two-way agreement. Instances that do not allow hate-speech will also not probably federate with instances that do allow hate-speech, because of all the hate-speech.

On the other hand it’s kinda funny to see when someone has clearly trawled your profile and reduced everything based on reading a conversation from a week ago.

Eh, the BBC has definitely been involved in spreading transphobia.

I still think their joining the Fediverse is a good thing for the adoption of decentralised social media.

Both of those things can be true.

Referring to oneself as a slur is usually not viewed the same way as referring to someone else with a slur. Doubly so if one doesn’t belong to the group the slur targets.

The problem is that the well has been poisoned. Simple fact is that whenever someone says “I just have concerns”, nine-out-of-ten times, they’re just trolling you.

And I’ve been involved in this conversation for years, on a couple of different forums, trying to explain things that trans folks go through. And to this day I still do my best to always give people the benefit of the doubt if they seem sincere.

But I’m not at all exaggerating when I say 9/10 times it’s just someone JAQing off, and within a few posts they’re accusing trans people of being a danger to women or children.

This is combined with the fact that a lot of the “reasonable” compromises cisgender people come up with, just aren’t at all reasonable from the perspective of the transgender people they would affect. The compromises usually involve denying life-saving medical care, or involve basically accepting being ostracised from public life.

Finally, cisgender people just massively outnumber transgender people. So while for any one cisgender person, this might be the first time they’ve ever asked anything about the topic, the trans person has likely been asked dozens if not hundreds of times. Many of which were in bad faith.

So a lot of trans people have checked out. For their own mental health.