It was added to the “exclude” list in an apparently unrelated commit three days ago with absolutely no explanation. Glancing at its front page I see nothing objectionable, just a lot of anime stuff. When challenged u/dessalines had nothing to say other than “no, that is full of CSAM” and just closed the discussion without further comment.
Unless some more info comes to light it does not look good. Probably as good a time as any to depart from lemmy.ml.
“4 censures” doesn’t seem like a large number, accusing them of paraphilia is beside the point and makes it look like the objection is simply to queer people existing, and you should really gather more evidence than that before going around accusing anyone of pedophilia in this day and age.
On the other hand I had a look at that instance, and I would not federate with it.
Don’t believe any graph whose y-axis starts at any value but 0 people.
This one is pretty bad but that is definitely not the right lesson to take from it. The one thing it does show us is that approximately 20k extra new users suddenly showed up compared to the trend, and that would be much more difficult to see if the relevant axis did start at zero. The bigger problem is that it shows too short a time span. It’s not clear how unusual this event was, or if it happens every week.
The other weird thing is that bottom-right axis does start at zero for some reason. I’m guessing it might somehow be trying to indicate “toots” specifically made by those new users? But that’s not how it’s labelled and it seems unlikely they could have that data.
This means that all content from communities which are hosted there is hidden. Posts from users of blocked instances are still visible in other places.
Cool! Although it’s not quite what I imagined. It’s widespread problematic posts and comments from users on instances I’d want to block in other communities I do follow which I was thinking of, and those wouldn’t be affected? I have not seen a whole lot of it so far, but I saw enough to think about it a little.
It might be more complicated, as I suppose you’d have to hide all the replies to comments from user-blocked instances as well. Maybe it could be done client-side? Seems like giving users that option would mean less motivation for defederating.
Lemmy could be much improved by letting users block instances.
I’m not saying it leads to toxicity necessarily, just that it’s something very different than what my first fediverse experience was, which was more about hanging out with a small group of friends. Lemmy seems more about interaction mostly with strangers in large groups like this one, which I also enjoy. Toxicity is probably more a function of it, along with lots of other places, getting flooded with new users who don’t know how to behave. Eternal September was a phrase that got passed around a lot for a while over on pleroma. What’s happening is analogous to that event (which I was there for) in a lot of ways, even if the details are different. Some places are better insulated from it than others, and this one isn’t much at all protected from it as of yet. Like OP suggests it might be more so in the future depending on how things go.
Last time I tried lemmy was maybe about a year ago, and to me it just seemed empty and desolate then. Maybe I just didn’t know the right places to look. Really I was looking for something to replace reddit, and the way I used reddit was to just ignore the algorithm and the front page and look at only my feed sorted by new of various strange and interesting little subs. There are still very few of those around here compared to the breadth of them that used to exist on reddit. Most of those are dying or dead as the more interesting people that sustained them gradually realize the site owners are indifferent or hostile to their existence and they move on to one place or another. I don’t go back there any more. But Lemmy doesn’t seem to have a big enough userbase to sustain a c/baduk all that well yet, let alone a c/badukshitposting. So that’s what I hope it does have some day, along with any better tools that prove necessary to protect us from the storm that doesn’t look like it will end any time soon.
Ah, I see. I was only around the past few years but over that much time it has changed a lot for sure. There’s more of everything. If you preferred the old-school fedi experience though it seems like lemmy is the wrong place to look, as it’s designed to be something else. As is mastodon for that matter. There still exist quiet corners where people do things more in keeping with the old ways. The ones where I started have since disappeared but hopefully some will hang together.
You mean c/fediverse? Or lemmy.ml? Or all of lemmy? Or all of the fediverse? Or the whole world?
Fedi is all about different communities coexisting, sometimes uneasily, alongside each other. Lemmy doesn’t need to have only one monolithic community identity. I hope it grows in scope and diversity until everyone can find one that suits them.
the most toxic Redditors migrated over
Nah, the most toxic redditors will never leave reddit. Their souls will be consumed in agony as it collapses into a fiery little black hole of hate. The ones who made it over here can’t be all bad no matter how stupid some of them appear at first glance.
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I wouldn’t need to be wholly convinced that there’s anything heinous going on over there, just that the person accusing them of it had good reason to think so. So pretty much anything more than no info at all would probably have done the trick. Anyway, thanks for putting up with me for a little while and good luck to everyone at lemmy.ml, but I’m outta here. I’ll probably go try kbin or something.