It means they don’t plan to add support but don’t want to tell you that so it’s “on the radar”.

Wouldn’t hold my breath or expect anything.

loops, whatever the hell that is

FediverseTok, which I expect to get a lot more popular in the US pretty soon.

That’s probably true, though I’m not sure who has ever actually made a legitimate determination since you’d have to remove the non-humans from the numbers first and, well, Reddit isn’t going to tank their MAU numbers by ever releasing that kind of stat.

It’s also not helped once you hit a certain size and the nature of scale takes over and the level of toxicity goes up: even in small groups, when a new person shows up and asks the same question for the 20th time, they start taking shit for it. If you’re in a BIG group, it turns into a giant dogpile, and people stop asking questions because who the hell likes that kind of response, so you end up with a lot of people who are subscribed to something, but none of whom actually contribute at all.

It sounds like British politicians are the ones deciding harmful content, no?

So this will probably go exactly how you’re expecting, in the long term.

A Lemmy community with 100 active members is more likely to be 100 active humans than a subreddit with 10,000 members is, based on the last time I went to Reddit: it was so, so clear that everything was either ChatGPT, or a repost of shit even I had already seen, or was just otherwise obviously not an authentic human sharing something interesting.

So yeah, not entirely surprising.

Because they’re ancient, depreciated, and technically obsolete.

For example: usenet groups are essentially unmoderated, which allows spammers, trolls, and bad actors free reign to do what it is they do. This was not a design consideration when usenet was being developed, because the assumption was all the users would have a name, email, and traceable identity so if you acted like a stupid shit, everyone already knew exactly who you were, where you worked/went to school, and could apply actual real-world social pressure to you to stop being a stupid fuck.

This, of course, does not work anymore, and has basically been the primary driver of why usenet has just plain died as a discussion forum because you just can’t have an unmoderated anything without it turning into the worst of 4chan, twitter, and insert-nazi-site-of-choice-here combined with a nonstop flood of spam and scams.

So it died, everyone moved on, and I don’t think that there’s really anyone who thinks the global usenet backbone is salvagable as a communications method.

HOWEVER, you can of course run your own NNTP server and limit access via local accounts and simply not take the big global feed. It’s useful as a protocol, but then, at that point, why use NNTP over a forum software, or Lemmy (even if it’s not federating), or whatever?

Okay so you’re able to access it via the IP it’s hosted on, but NOT via the domain name in the tunnel?

Is the working IP a public or private one?

My $5 is that you don’t have the tunnel configured properly and that’s why you’re having issues, but maybe not.

Also, what specifically did you put in the config file? Usually they’re not asking for an IP, but the FQDN of the site.

Are you using Cloudflare as DNS, proxy, or via their argo tunnels? (I know you said tunnel, but then mention accessing via IP address, so I’m not entirely sure what you’ve done.)

Kinda changes what you should be looking at.

Head to the lemmy github and subscribe to the releases email and you’ll get one when a new version is out.

(And, unlike SOME projects I’m subbed to, they don’t do anything that generates a ton of spam, so it really is just one-email-per-release.)

I’ve become a fan of staying one version behind for a month or two, unless there’s a security issue that is involved in which case I’ll patch.

I like it when someone who isn’t me finds out the catastrophic breaking issues and has to do the cleanup, and I’ll wait for the fixed version. :P

Are content creators we already know expected to start their own servers? Or will there be a general mega instance for everyone to post to.

Honestly - both?

Good examples are going to be Floatplane and Nebula for the single-content-creator platform and the group of creators platforms.

There’s no real reason you can’t build a platform and require someone to pay you to have access, and it seems to have been successful for both groups.

Video hosting is expensive, but it 's not prohibitive and a group of creators could certainly come up with a useful platform and self-host it and still be profitable.

Now, the question is, of course, if peertube is the right choice for that and if it offers anything they’d need, but that’s a different discussion.

Everything Whedon has ever done was mid, and I’m going to be banned for saying that, probably.

Search will never search non-local content.

Which is the point I’m trying to make: right now, you cannot use search as a discoverability medium, unless you’re on something the scale of mastodon.social.

Search with a focus on new content discoverability is utterly useless for smaller or single user instances, because a search that only finds things you already know about isn’t exactly a useful search for discoverability.

If I have to be on the biggest instances, then there’s very little difference between something like Bluesky and Mastodon in terms of usability, and uh, I might as well pick the one that’s more likely to have the most growth and diversity of content.

We have to give up on the idea of having easy and direct access to the whole of thw fediverse.

I agree, and it’s why I’ve pretty much migrated back to centralized services with the exception of Lemmy, because Lemmy works very well in terms of finding useful shit to follow in a way that literally no other federated platform does.

The problem I ran into is that every single platform that primarily interacted with Mastodon (The keys, etc.) had the same exact same set of problems.

While yes, my Firefish instance had search, what was it searching? Local data only, and once I figured out that Mastodon-style replies didn’t federate to all of someone’s followers, it became pretty clear that it was uh, not very useful.

You can search, but any given server may or may not have access to data you actually want and thus, well, you just plain cannot meaningfully search for shit unless you go to one of the mega instances, or join giant piles of relays and store gigabyte upon gigabyte upon gigabyte of garbage data you do not care about.

The whole implementation is kinda garbage for search-based discovery from it’s very basic design all the way through to everyone’s implementations.

For me, it’s full text search.

I tend to want to find an opinion on something very specific, so if I can just toss a phrase or model number or name of something into a search field and get actual non-AI, non-advertisement, non-stupid-shit results, that’d be absolutely ideal.

Like, say, how Google worked 15 years ago.

Install it and use it?

Their PDS is self hosted, but it does still rely on the central relays (though you COULD host that yourself if you wanted to pay for it, I suppose?).

It’s very centralized, but it’s not that different from what you’d have to do to make Mastodon useful: a small/single user instance will get zero content, even if you follow a lot of people, without also adding several relays to work around some of the design decisions made by the Mastodon team regarding replies and how federation works for those kind of things, as well as to populate hashtags and searches and such.

Though really you shouldn’t do any of that, and just use a good platform for discussion, like a forum or a threadiverse platform. (No seriously, absolutely hate “microblog” shit because it’s designed to just be zingers and hot takes and not actual meaningful conversations.)

15 million Series A financing

Maybe shitty corporate search engines are failing me, but has there been a stated valuation for Bluesky? Googling 'Bluesky valuation" or any combination thereof is a problem since that’s a business term so lol, lmao, search engine worthless.

$8m seed + $15m A series may be a shockingly small amount of equity, or it could be the whole damn company but I’m just not seeing it actually posted anywhere.

Two thoughts come to mind:

1. If it’s there and you aren’t having it shoved down your throat, then that’s still a VAST improvement over Twitter, which has gone from shitty social media to blatant hate indoctrination platform.

and

2. Did you just now discover that most people are shitty? I always assumed most people figured that out at 13 or 14.

My read was ‘we need to make more communities, AND we need more users’ and I’m not sure why more communities solves anything since I’ve shown Lemmy to several actual real touch-grass kind of friends and they’re all like ‘but why? there’s nothing there.’

Which is both very wrong, and completely understandable because if you go searching for a community about something, you’ll find a whole lot of no activity ones and that’s just a misleading and confusing presentation which they’re taking the wrong impression away from.

I don’t think there’s a group of users who are just sitting out there waiting for a community about Longaberger baskets to make the jump off reddit, but there are a LOT of people who would move if it looks like it’s not just another “reddit killer” with lots of empty zones of nothingness.

Hard disagree.

A million empty communities simply makes all of lemmy look like a barren wasteland nobody uses.

We, if anything, need to stop making a community for every single edgecase that someone might ever one day want to talk about, and focus on the basics, until there’s enough people interested in some random niche thing to justify adding the community.

That is to say, it should be organic community growth led by users making a more specific community from a larger community, and not server admins making, for example, 421,000 different sports team communities hoping users will somehow magically appear and use any of them.

Lemmy is still at the scale that a single /c/NFL could more than adequately handle the entire volume of people talking about NFL games, and we don’t really need a /c/ for each league, team, player, and coach or whatever.