I want all the redditors. I just want them on a more open platform.

I absolutely did NOT leave reddit because of the users. I left because of the changes to the platform.

I love reddit users and lemmy users.

It’s waaaay too polite and clean, to the point of self righteousness. Twitter is still more fun, but it leans too far in the other direction.

Lemmy was too self righteous at first too. People acting like we came here because reddit users were bigots… no, it’s because spez is a greedy bastard who ruined the site.

So I think bluesky might become cool like lemmy when people finally relax.

Twitter > BlueSky > Mastodon

Personally I think we should all use the kbin microblog.

I’m checking this out!

Persistence could be traded off for decentralization. Just like torrents’ associated data are stored on people’s computers (and the data dies if nobody is seeding) this kind of social media doesn’t have to be permanently stored on a server.

They’re not the worst, but I want literally nobody restricting my access to literally anybody (criminal behavior a grudging exception, and even that I’d prefer to take care of myself).

Also, I fled a couple other places first.

I just don’t want a Mommy and Daddy telling me which servers are Naughty or Nice. I don’t want technology that enables those restrictions at all.

No, that’s fairly centralized too. I think I want a peer-to-peer social media protocol. Maybe more like torrents than email.

I have a hard time imagining what that looks like, which is just a failure of my ability to think about these technologies. But what I’m talking about is a little different, simply because I don’t think we can go from these diverse systems into something simple and elegantly connected.

I mean something like email but structured differently. Though email still has spam filters and blacklists, and a new social media protocol might still need those (inevitably infringing on my curatorial freedom similarly to defederation).

My point is that I’m still looking for something new, rather than to reform the defediverse.

Edit:

I might be wrong. It might be good to leverage what we started here and reform the tech to give users more freedom, and take pressure from admins.

Also… maybe email is not the example I should follow. Maybe it’s more like torrents. P2P social media.

I still think we need a simple social media protocol that gives me the power to curate my feed rather than hoping my admins don’t defederate with everybody else (followed by hordes of drooling goons telling me to start my own instance).

That sucks but it’s also funny because it’s a pun.

Right. And then you’ll write better code when you do use Python or JavaScript or whatever.

Java is the first language I learned. I love how structured it is and how it forces you to work within the paradigm. I might never use it again, but it shaped how I think of programming.

This actually makes me want to contribute to lemmy.

I didn’t know Lemmy was written in Rust.

I love Java.

Skepticism should be a constant.

Maybe we would just have to rethink moderation.

As long as it’s still all hosted on remote servers, it’s still web2.0

P2P protocols will be an evolution.

Enjoy your feelings of hatred then, I guess. Don’t worry though, defederation will win and you’ll be safe inside your silo bitching about how there were once people who said things you disagreed with whom you hated and continue to hate, and that hate is all you ever communicate.

Defederation should always be an extreme measure. Usually it’s just the self-righteousness instinct trying to performatively obstruct other people. I usually find these discussions repulsive because of how people speak about each other (bitching about “tankies” or whatever and demanding that they be ideologically cleansed).

If we have more power to curate our own feeds, then there should be less defederation.

Did meta pay you to say this?

The whole post is basically “join meta and use hopes and prayers that they don’t dominate the whole thing.”