I’m not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don’t think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i’m not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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    I’ll be real: I don’t want to go back. I want a return to actual communities and comradery, and an exodus from “social” influencers, on ad-riddled and bloated soap boxes.

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      Bingo. That’s me too.

      I never realized just how tired I was of social media until Reddit blew themselves up. I had already quit Zucc’s armoury of social media tools a few years ago. I’ll be glad if I don’t ever have to go back.

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    CEO resignation. A big fuck you to IPO? Apollo continuing. None of this will happen though.

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    I never considered going back. Lemmy is forward. More power to the users and the community and less from greedy shareholders. This is the way.

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    Reddit is not what it ought to be. It’s overwhelming toxic environment just ruins what could have been a great forum. But it is what it is and for that reason, I’m out.

    Going back at this point would be like returning to an abusive partner and thinking that the relationship could actually be better this time.

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      Exactly. Reddit is a far cry from what Aaron wanted it to be in the beginning. It’s just another corporate hellscape like all the other big platforms have become.

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    Reddit was dead from the day Conde Nast bought it. Every day since then was a roll of the dice as to whether they’d attempt to seize more profits and ruin it, or not. This happens to essentially every public or aspiring public company eventually. The need for perpetual growth warps decisions and guts the original mission in the end.

    We call it “autosarcophagy” or “self-cannibalism.”

    As I understand it, Reddit also took on a lot of external capital investment, which only makes the pressure to perform financially even greater. I can’t fault them for making the decisions they have to make to keep their jobs, keep their executive salaries, and so on.

    Long live the sustainable, community-driven, community-funded future! Nobody can screw this up for us if we are the ones footing the bill.

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      I wouldn’t fault them as much if they hadn’t dumped the capital into absurdly dumb things to try and become facebook. If they’d invested it into better reliability and reducing costs to operate, I’d have a ton of sympathy.

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    Spez resigning and free API access to all third party apps as it was before.

    Honestly though? Lemmy is reminding me of old reddit and I’m enjoying it so who knows if I’d even go back if this site keeps growing at the rate that it is.

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    Reddit as an entity is just frustrating. Not just the recent debacle, but the pattern of getting slightly more awful with each passing minute. I’m hoping I enjoy my stay here well enough that I never feel the urge to go back. Unfortunately, it’s less about what Reddit can do to get me back and more about what the Fediverse can do to keep me.

    I liked seeing and engaging with unlimited new things with each passing moment. It would not be very satisfying for me to lose that. Time will tell.

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    I think many people were looking for a reason to leave but kind of felt stuck seeing all the alternatives being either dead or abrasive.

    Lemmy seems to have captured the soul of what a significant portion of people have already been looking for.

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      Lemmy in it’s current state feels very similar to reddit did ~14 years ago.

      I am just smitten. I’ll never go back.

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      This describes me perfectly. Most of the alternatives I saw previously just ended up being coopted by the alt-right crowd who got chased off of Reddit. Lemmy (so far) represents what I want from an online community.

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        Its so weird that the alt right hasn’t tried to seize Lemmy yet from my experience it was always the immediate fate of Reddit alts in curious if the alt right is too busy over at truth social (or rumble) oh could we please get a youtube alt next that would be so great

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    For a while I thought “fire Spez”, but after giving it some more thought…

    NOTHING! and I’ll elaborate on why. The community of people makes or breaks social media platforms (see, Twitter as prime example). If the owner(s) aren’t interested in the well being of the community / communities, then I have no interest in being there.

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    Nice try, /u/spez…!

    But seriously, I guess none of any further actions to try to fix the whole thing would change that bad gut feeling of being held as a fool that I now have. Mostly due to how they treated Christian Selig.

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    while i have been liking my time here, i can’t say i’ll never go on reddit again. i’d like for lemmy to become my primary browsing platform, but there simply isn’t my favourite niche communities on here- in particular r/namenerds, r/battlejackets, r/posthardcore, and all the bullet journalling subs. unless those communities migrate, i’ll still go on reddit (yes, mobile) to engage with them, since those are some of my favourite hobbies, even if i’m hoping to spend more time with lemmy.

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      Yes I’ve really been missing compact and these new changes look like they’ll kill off the apps I was trying.

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    Don’t think I’ll ever go back, no matter what they do going forward. The team at Reddit (or at least a good chunk of the “top dogs”) have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted. They are slowly boiling the frog, and if they notice they’ve turned the temperature too high, they’ll lower it, and then try to increase it again, just more slowly than last time. They have been doing this for years, but this was a step too far for me

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    • 100% backpedal on all controversial changes announced within the previous 6 months; including any changes announced at the same time as said controversial changes.
    • Form a task force of admins and developers to backport all; critical moderation tools and changes introduced since the new.reddit launch; to old.reddit. (Complete this task within 1-2 years.)
    • Irrevocably Hard remove with no severance /u/spez from his CEO position and any position of power at reddit.
    • Hire a new CEO from the pool of the community team(s).
    • Cease all Dickery at once
    • CANCEL THE IPO!!! This shit needs to wait until reddit gets it’s act together.
    • Prioritize hiring humans to run reddit AEO; choose them from your MASSIVE FUCKING POOL OF SUBREDDIT MODERATORS! DO NOT USE AI OR HIRE ANYONE WHO HASN’T MANAGED AT LEAST 25K USER SUBS
    • Ban all forms of facism; this is including forms of EXTREME viewpoints that grossly exceed reasonable discourse, peaceful free speech, advocate for extremist governmental regulation, violence or oppression of any kind against any group or subset of people.
    • fuck /u/spez - Just make sure he never gets a C-Level job again please.
    • continue to build reddit out in a way that allows for fair and ethically priced services from reddit (Ads, unlimited API access, rev sharing, premium features that are cosmetic items only, etc)
    • Pick up the same “Do No Evil” ethos that Google abandoned; prioritize your users and revenue equally and balance the obligations better.
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    I won’t be back honestly.

    The fact that they are “willing” to go this route is the writing on the wall.

    I also find it so interesting that people and reddit themselves see the platform as “Social Media” and development is has been going that way.

    I see it as a link aggregator and forum and treat it as such. I just want to find information, comment about it and have it as dense and “clean” on my screen as possible. but The fact that it looks like another Facebook and instagram clone and it is gonna be the only way to experience it is a hell no from me.