• sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
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    Do what YOU want with your money.

    But if you have spare money, please check out the #MutualAid hashtag (on mastodon) and consider helping those in need there.

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      Harris is on Threads and recently you’ve been able to follow people on Threads from Mastadon.

      A Mastadon “native” account would be best of course, especially considering the amount raised.

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    If the point of the fundraiser is to convince her to join mastodon, wouldn’t 450k send just as strong of a message as 500k? Do what you want with your money, but why? Why are we dumping hundreds of grand towards a politician (who’s just raised over 300mil in two weeks) on the off chance they will decide to make a mastodon account? The fundraiser even says “encourage her to create a distinct presence on mastodon”. The language is so noncommittal it seems like even the people who organized this don’t expect anything to happen after they dump a cool half mil into a campaign that’s already wildly successful.

    Imo if the point of this fundraiser is to promote and grow mastodon/the fediverse then why isn’t the money put towards ads, funding instances, developing the fediverse, or a million other things. That amount of money could go a very long way for the fediverse if it were put towards something other than a plea to Kamala Harris to pretty please maybe think about possibly signing up for mastodon

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      “We have the chance to save U.S. democracy and rule of law, to elect the first woman President of the United States, and to send TFG packing. By contributing to Kamala Harris’s campaign via this portal, we can also encourage her to create a distinct presence on Mastodon, not mediated by Threads or any other social media provider.”

      Promoting Mastodon isn’t even a tertiary goal. It’s just an “also encourage”. The primary goal is fundraising for a political candidate.

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        I see two goals in that paragraph:

        Fundraiser for Kamala

        Encourage Kamala to make a mastodon account and promote on it over other social media

        People have already donated hundreds of millions of dollars to her via more official channels. This is a grassroots fundraiser targeted specifically at mastodon users (and now the fediverse at large because of this post) with the stated incentive of trying to encourage Kamala to use mastodon over other platforms. You could chalk the mastodon but up as secondary but there isn’t even a third thing in that paragraph for the mastodon portion to be less important than. Given the amount of press the Harris campaign has already received, it seems like this fundraiser’s primary purpose is to promote mastodon via contributing to the campaign and tacitly asking Kamala to sign up.

        If mastodon users wanted to donate to the campaign, they have probably been exposed to several other avenues to do that before they would have even seen this. So what’s the point of doing a special “fediverse only” fundraiser? Apparently it’s to encourage her to create an account. It’s pandering and I don’t see a point in shilling a super special fediverse fundraiser for a candidate who’s already drowning in small donation money when that money could be used to promote the fediverse in a much more meaningful way

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      If you’d like to start a different fund for that, that’s fine. This fund is for Kamala Harris, and the people who donated money to it did it with the understanding that that’s what it’s for.

      You can’t just decide to use the money for something else, because that is called fraud, and it’s a crime.

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        I’m not suggesting the organizers of this fundraiser.missappropriate the money. I’m saying that this fundraiser seems pretty pointless and the money would be better spent elsewhere

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          That money wasn’t given to spend somewhere else. That’s like if I raise money for a school art program, and you say it would be better spent on a sports program, cause it’s so much money. That’s not what the fundraiser was for, and that’s not why the money was given.

          And again, you are free to start a fundraiser for Mastodon. I honestly wish you luck if you do.

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            Idk I view it a little closer than that. Rather than an arts program v sports program I see it as an art program that wants to buy paint and I’m saying maybe it would be a better idea to buy easles, canvases, pencils, paper, and pastels instead

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        The complaint is that people care more about Kamala joining mastodon than actually spending money on mastodon.

        Your point is irrelevant. No one insisted that people’s money should be used for a purpose other than what they consented (please show me where anyone implied that). No one implied that the money isn’t paid for kamala Harris with that understanding. Rather, they are complaining about people following such misguided aims.

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          Imo if the point of this fundraiser is to promote and grow mastodon/the fediverse then why isn’t the money put towards ads, funding instances, developing the fediverse, or a million other things. That amount of money could go a very long way for the fediverse if it were put towards something other than a plea to Kamala Harris to pretty please maybe think about possibly signing up for mastodon

          This text is implying that that amount of money has better uses, but we never raised that amount of money for any of those uses, so it’s completely pointless to talk about. I personally donated because it’s going to Kamala’s campaign. If it weren’t, I wouldn’t have, and I bet most other people wouldn’t have either.

          The commenter completely misses the point of the fundraiser. It is not a Mastodon fundraiser. It is a Kamala fundraiser. Nobody donated to Mastodon here.

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    “500.000$”

    This is not American. Not saying you shouldn’t donate to Harris, but seeing money written out that way seems fishy as shit to someone who would otherwise be looking to donate.

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    Would donate If it was possible for foreigners, but it’s against US law for me to donate so I will refrain from doing so.

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      You have a US citizen friend you can give money to donate? Normally I wouldn’t encourage going around the sanctity of our elections but since AIPAC had already tipped the scales of our primaries and they do the same thing, fuck it. Nothing is sacred anymore apparently.

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      It’s almost the least someone at the campaign could do. I’ll donate eventually (they seem to be doing fine for now!), but it would be great to see them show some love for the superior principled social media outcasts of the fediverse and Mastodon.

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    Contribution rules

    1. I am a U.S. citizen or lawfully admitted permanent resident (i.e., green card holder).

    Does anyone know why this rule exists?

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    I’m all for this…

    But aren’t the Democrats also kinda the party of Big Tech?

    It would be amazing of campaigns start having a Fediverse presence, but still.

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        Also because JD Vance is a Peter thiel acolyte, one of the founders of PayPal, the global spying company Palintir, and an early Facebook investor.

        Theil is an avowed monarchist that wants an American king, has come out and said that woman should not be allowed to vote. He pumps endless money into “think tanks,” crackpots and political races like Trumps to push an incredibly extremely brutal “the rich are your betters” policy forward in this country. This included dropping 10 million on Vance’s Senate run in Ohio.

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        Eh, Elon Musk and the crypo industry are not “Big Tech” to me.

        Peter Thiel kinda is, but he’s also kinda a black sheep. And their support of Republicans isn’t exactly surprising.

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      Political party is the party of who ever pays for it.

      Giving kamala or anyone of the money won’t get you any attention here though

      Shiti organics are just there to provide regime legitimacy. Legal persons and their owners get the audience and get their needs aaddressed.

      We can’t even get maternity leave… Lol

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      Maybe there just trying to get back at him because truth social stole mastodon’s code without publishing the changes properly

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    Giving money to a regime wbore 🤡

    She is on our team, trust me bro