• Five@slrpnk.netOP
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    3 months ago

    Oh, so if he sincerely believes in genocide, it’s fine.

    Regardless of our conflict, we can agree that Pepe Escobar is a shithead.

    There’s an old joke that goes:

    Two people, a Hexbear and a Solarpunk were arguing. One said,

    “On my server I can reply to an admin and say “I don’t like how you’re running things on this instance!”

    “I can do that too!”

    “Really?”

    "Yes! I can reply to an admin and say, “I don’t like how the SLRPNK admins are running things on their instance!”

    My concern is that the criteria you are using to justify banning The Cradle would also ban most United States media as well. I value the principle of a free press, and what you’re proposing is inconsistent with those values. It’s easy to call for the ban of information that disagrees with us, but unless we develop a more nuanced approach to combating propaganda, we risk replicating the values of the authoritarian systems we oppose.

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      3 months ago

      My point is just that banning The Cradle is not inherently an illegitimate move. You may not agree with it, and I honestly wouldn’t see the point unless someone was spamming The Cradle’s articles or editorials, but it is a legitimate point to consider that they carry water for Russian propaganda, and in allowing that source, misinformation multiplies and makes the mods’ jobs harder.

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        3 months ago

        A appreciate your work demonstrating The Cradle’s support for the Russian state. It’s the first time I can remember seeing The Cradle posted on here, and in between being subscribed to these communities and my contributions to LemmyWorldDefenseHQ, I have not seen The Cradle spam as a reported or observed problem.

        I’ve read the article, and I find it valuable. I’m alarmed that the Lemmy World !politics and !news mods have failed to demonstrate the pressing need for the ham-fisted gatekeeping and censorship regime they’ve implemented.

        Lemmy.World is the largest instance, and !politics and !news are flagship communities. I would like to see the Fediverse overtake corporate forums, and learning to approach the spectrum of journalistic credibility with nuance is an essential feature of a better version of social media.