I would like to formally agree that this is annoying. I’m trying to retrain my brain but it is old and unwilling.

StS is glorious. It’s one of the few games I’ve 100% on Steam. Definitely on my top 10 list.

Eyy SanctuaryRPG has some wild ascii art! Definitely a good game!

Ohh I’ve heard of it! I think Roguelite Deckbuilders are one of my favorite forks to the roguelike genre. They consume more of my time and money than I’d like to admit to…

Now we’re getting into some B Track RLs! I haven’t played URR in ages!

Qud is a fabulous game. It’s definitely a RL that I need to be in the mood for (Given it’s length) but it has hands down the best atmosphere of near any game I’ve ever played RL or not.

There is for sure some tedium in RLs. I think what finally caused them to click for me was to not focus as much on what items I need to win, but on what items (or play style) I needed to reduce the randomness. Watching people like Ultraviolent4 made me realize that often it’s about making better decisions, not the best decisions. Again, that may not be for everyone, but it was helpful for me at least.

Roguelikes are like beer. Often times you have to find one you like to get a taste for them. That said, beer is also not for everyone :).

I would absolutely give Necrodancer a pass as well!

No worries at all! While I personally prefer the more traditional RLs, I know that’s not everyone’s thing.

DCSS is definitely -like. But it’s not terribly hard to grasp and can be an incredibly fun time if you don’t mind failure.

I’ve actually never heard of this one! Definitely worth a look.

Both the Fang and Brave system sound great. Particularly the later since you generally DONT want to fight in the open like that in RLs. What a cool idea!

They are.

You have a link? I’d love to check it out.

Rogue Fable is excellent! Definitely a good intro to the Genre for more casual play.

Speaking of, if you like more casual RLs, check out The Ground Gives Way or Path of Achra.

TGGW is a coffee break RL. Meant to be played in small 15-20 min bites. Simple, yet effective.

PoA is a RL almost entirely built on character theory crafting. The actual RL play can be done with 1-2 buttons most of the time. The character and build creation is… a lot lol. But if you’re into theory crafting and build variety its a great time.

Yes! Exploring old forts and seeing the world you’ve built through that different lens is an excellent experience!

Yoo Approaching Infinity is great! The duality of the Ship and Away Team is done so well! They really kind of break up the gameplay loop into distinct bites. Definitely a great dame.

Both excellent games. Though not entirely what I’m looking for. If you’ve never had the experience of a traditional roguelike I would HIGHLY recommend Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. It’s free and has a tile version, and can even be played directly in your browser. It’s complex and unforgiving at first but an excellent intro to the genre. And when it does start to click its one of the most well paced RLs I’ve ever played.

I’ve never even touched rogue actually. Played quite a bit of ADOM though. Definitely a good time :). Also there’s a post up above with links to RL communities :)

You know, I never got into nethack. I can appreciate it’s complexity but it seems just a little too much for me. I’ve played well over my fair share of crawl though. I don’t mind tiles so much when done well but ascii is just as good.

I must admit I’m spoiled not only to auto explore but also to the numpad… dcss always hit that perfect balance of an auto that was fluid and purposeful without diving you into weird situations and feeling inadequate (looking at you Qud, I love your game but your autoexplore is garbage).

I guess I may have to check out nethack again though. Thanks for the suggestion!

Eyy!! Just saw the edit! No idea why those didn’t show up when I looked! Thanks you very kindly!

That game honestly has one of the best communities I’ve ever seen in a game. I’ve rarely met people who were just asshats and even made a few friends playing.