Now, fedi then develops in autonomus manner, as much as possible. There are problems with centralization on fedi even now without meta.

Letting them in will only help meta EEE(embrace, extened, extinguish) it.

I think we are on same page, I am aginst federating with threads

Same story as XMPP

This is not cooperation, this is take over by meta. So far I see most fedi users are aganist federation with meta, I’m glad that’s the case.

With xmpp you could chat with people on messenger just by having xmpp account somewhere else. Now you cannot. And no email is not working just fine, self hosting email is hard now beacuse you are getting blocked if you are using big tech servers.

XMPP has it’s own problems, not really pleasant user experience etc. But yes, facebook first embraced it the cut you off anyone you had on messenger.

If this happens, meta will takeover fedi.

o/

Same how google killed xmpp, how big tech killed email. Meta and big tech are just too powerful and they can destroy, takeover fedi with resources they have.

Tbh, I never saw that. I’d rather argue with commie tankies all day, and look through their posts then see meta and big tech ripping apart fediverse.

I just subscribe to things I’m intersted in so that’s way I don’t see extermist content or any other content I don’t wanna se. And no this doesn’t mean “i can just block threads myself for myself” because it is just individual action that on big scale has no effect at all.

Which still doesn’t mean fedi should cooperate with meta or any other big tech, I dare to say not even with any company.

l o l, how you deduce I’m a “paid shill”. you sound more like paid shill tbh, even you probably aren’t

edit: now I see i probably i misunderstood you, sorry

Disagree, federating with meta will kill the fedi. It will put all power in big tech.

Yes, that would be a great idea because it would free the email protocol taken over by all big tech.

How you think threads is helping in that ?

How would defederation from meta lead to killin fediverse ?

That is naive look on it. Meta(Facebook) is a company, it’s always company interest and only company interest. The idea of fediverse is to stay out of data tracking, user profiling, not to help it in any way. Connecting with meta is workoing aginst fediverse. It might be a mistake fediverse never recovers from, even now it’s really small fedi community.

Why would we as fedi users, mods and admins help meta or any other company, for what, for their interest that they sell on “we love fediverse”, “cusotmer first” bla bla bla.