1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights:
- https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans
- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview
2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them.
3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/)
4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.
If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”
If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.
What exactly is “pushing their crap”? Chances are it will be more moderated and less arbitrary than what passes through from some lemmy instances. Hatred and misinformation? Harvesting your data? Like this isn’t already a factor with lemmy? In the Fediverse, we have admins who flagrantly break their own TOS. Plus it seems to me this is an opportunity for lemmy to get advertisement at Threads’ expense.
I do see it as a potential problem with moderation on Lemmy’s end. You have all of the users from Threads interacting with Lemmy and Kbin users. It’s possible there’s an influx of accounts on here that are trolling, and it becomes unmanageable to moderate everything on Lemmy’s side.
But Threads will have no problems with content moderation.
I really, really doubt that this is going to be a concern. First, while technically Mastodon can interact with Lemmy, in practice how often does it happen? It’s not zero, but it’s not a lot, either, and I doubt that Threads will change that much because while it’s a neat technical feature, link aggregators and micro-blogging platforms are pretty incompatible culturally.
And then we have to remember that we’re talking about Threads normies. Do we really think that a bunch of Swifties and Kardasholes and other influencers are going to look at the absolute zoo of Marxist/Anarchist/Linuxist users on Lemmy and be like “this is the type of content I’ve been waiting for, I need to interact more with that community”? This reminds me a lot of neckbeards saying they wouldn’t date Megan Fox because she has weird thumbs.
And then we have the whole thing with the actual fediverse and the tech behind it. There is still going to be no algorithm artificially inflating the popularity of what are thinly veiled ads. Meta has no mechanism for introducing ads into the Fedi. Lemmy is not suddenly going to be massively interested in the vast majority of content on threads and start upvoting to the moon.
And the dev team behind the fedi I would wager is going to prevent any sort of real technical takeover, so that means that at any point defederating is possible, and with basically no loss to the fedi.
Linuxist… I’ve not seen that term before; I like it. I suppose it’s for the super hardcore Linux user?
Interesting you lumped them with the other two. XD
The only way I can see them serving adverts is by using submissions as the mechanism. But I assume there is no feedback to show how many impressions those submissions have made. So how can Meta sell those advertising spots without any data to flaunt to advertisement buyers and how do they appropriately charge them.
Shhhhh people are scared here, just go with it if you care about people being mean to you for having a different opinion and/or enjoying something they are afraid of. (Which clearly makes you evil)
What exactly is “pushing their crap”? Chances are it will be more moderated and less arbitrary than what passes through from some lemmy instances. Hatred and misinformation? Harvesting your data? Like this isn’t already a factor with lemmy? In the Fediverse, we have admins who flagrantly break their own TOS. Plus it seems to me this is an opportunity for lemmy to get advertisement at Threads’ expense.
I do see it as a potential problem with moderation on Lemmy’s end. You have all of the users from Threads interacting with Lemmy and Kbin users. It’s possible there’s an influx of accounts on here that are trolling, and it becomes unmanageable to moderate everything on Lemmy’s side.
But Threads will have no problems with content moderation.
I really, really doubt that this is going to be a concern. First, while technically Mastodon can interact with Lemmy, in practice how often does it happen? It’s not zero, but it’s not a lot, either, and I doubt that Threads will change that much because while it’s a neat technical feature, link aggregators and micro-blogging platforms are pretty incompatible culturally.
And then we have to remember that we’re talking about Threads normies. Do we really think that a bunch of Swifties and Kardasholes and other influencers are going to look at the absolute zoo of Marxist/Anarchist/Linuxist users on Lemmy and be like “this is the type of content I’ve been waiting for, I need to interact more with that community”? This reminds me a lot of neckbeards saying they wouldn’t date Megan Fox because she has weird thumbs.
And then we have the whole thing with the actual fediverse and the tech behind it. There is still going to be no algorithm artificially inflating the popularity of what are thinly veiled ads. Meta has no mechanism for introducing ads into the Fedi. Lemmy is not suddenly going to be massively interested in the vast majority of content on threads and start upvoting to the moon.
And the dev team behind the fedi I would wager is going to prevent any sort of real technical takeover, so that means that at any point defederating is possible, and with basically no loss to the fedi.
Linuxist… I’ve not seen that term before; I like it. I suppose it’s for the super hardcore Linux user?
Interesting you lumped them with the other two. XD
The only way I can see them serving adverts is by using submissions as the mechanism. But I assume there is no feedback to show how many impressions those submissions have made. So how can Meta sell those advertising spots without any data to flaunt to advertisement buyers and how do they appropriately charge them.
Shhhhh people are scared here, just go with it if you care about people being mean to you for having a different opinion and/or enjoying something they are afraid of. (Which clearly makes you evil)
I agree. We could ride the threads train and use it to our advantage. If it ever gets problematic, instances can just defederate at that point.
Oh no not free speech
Ah yes, the inevitable freeze peach twat.
Go back to reddit
“Back” is doing some seriously heavy lifting in that sentence. One might say you’re breaking that sentence’s back.
Familiar with getting your back broke huh?
I’m sure that was very clever when you said it in your head.