Round 1: grilled

    • SeaJ@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      One of those is heavily subsidized by your taxes, the other is less so. Steak would be $35/lb without subsidies.

    • andthenthreemore@startrek.website
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      1 year ago

      One of these probably contains about 3 ingredients, the other, has 20 (and beyondmeat is one of the less bad meat alternatives with regards to this).

      • dx1@lemmy.world
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        Water, pea protein*, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, rice protein, natural flavors, dried yeast, cocoa butter, methylcellulose, and less than 1% of potato starch, salt, potassium chloride, beet juice color, apple extract, pomegranate concentrate, sunflower lecithin, vinegar, lemon juice concentrate, vitamins and minerals (zinc sulfate, niacinamide [vitamin B3], pyridoxine hydrochloride [vitamin B6], cyanocobalamin [vitamin B12], calcium pantothenate).

        Really tame list of ingredients tbph. All the scary sounding ones are vitamins. Burgers on the other hand loaded with cholesterol and saturated fat, and might have all kinds of shit like antibiotics to boot. Just because “beef” is “one ingredient” doesn’t mean it’s not full of toxic chemicals.

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          Like I said, beyondmeat is one of the less bad options. But let’s not kid ourselves that they’re automatically more healthy. They fall squarely into the ultra processed “foods” category.

          Looking at the ingredients of some no meat meatballs from a supermarket and the fourth biggest ingredient is palm oil. They also contain methyl cellulose and dextrose whatever the hell they are!

          shit like antibiotics to boot.

          This may be true in some parts of the world, but not all.

          Due to concerns about the potential risk to humans, the use of hormonal growth promoters for livestock is banned in the UK. Antibiotic growth-promoting feed additives have also been phased out - because of concerns about the potential spread of antibiotic resistance.

          https://www.gov.uk/guidance/cattle-health#hormonal-treatments-and-antibiotics-for-cattle

          Saturated fats have a bad name, but the real issue is excess, a burger now and then is fine, is when you have it as a regular part of your diet rather than a treat that it becomes problematic.

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            Strikes me here that the word “processed” just gets bent to prove a point about these specific foods. The main issue with it is it’s a pretty high-fat food. That’s a given, since its whole purpose is to emulate a burger. Anyone who’s eating any kind of “burger” that’s not a full blown veggie burger on a regular basis should cut it out. As for burgers in general, you’re probably marginally better off with pea/rice protein + canola/coconut oil than beef, though something like that doesn’t have like a blinking green neon scientific proof behind it.