1. Meta/Facebook has a horrific track record on human rights:
- https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans
- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
- https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587080/mark-zuckerberg-holocaust-denial-kara-swisher-interview
2. Meta/Facebook is trying to join the Fediverse. We need to defederate them.
3. If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net" (here's how on Mastodon https://fedi.tips/how-to-defederate-fediblock-a-server-on-mastodon/)
4. If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net". Your admin is listed on your server website's About page.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.
If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net”
If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.
“We need to defederate from them” is not a petition…
Also, you could just choose not to subscribe to them, go to a place where they are defederated, or even just block them yourself with the right apps.
That’s a whole lot of choice for you in a platform based around decentralization and user choice.
But on the flip side if you just make everyone defederate them, then you’re removing user choice completely just based on your personal feelings on the matter.
That doesn’t seem fair to me just because you personally hate something that I don’t.
We’re not making anyone do anything. This is a pledge for admins to volunteer for, to send a message that this instance won’t be welcome. There are going to be pariah instances, that’s the nature of federation. If you can’t find an instance to follow that federates with them, then that just means the thing you want is deeply, deeply unpopular.
If you care enough, you could join their instance. You could start your own instance and federate with them. Go for it. If and when your own instance becomes a pariah I’m sure you’ll whine about people taking away your freedom to be an asshole at them online, because nobody can make you learn a lessom you’re clearly set on not learning.
Your complete unresponsiveness to anything I’ve said leads me to ask a very simple and basic question: are you actually curious to understand my answer to your question?
See what you did there? You didn’t admit to being curious to understand what I’m saying. You dictated what you think I’m saying, then reframed your answer around that.
In effect, you appear to not be curious to understand me because you believe you already do.
If you actually were curious to understand, then the reply, “I don’t get to decide for all of you what content you can see here” would be deeply alarming. It might cause you to stop and take stock, and wonder why I don’t agree with your characterisation of what I have said.
Let me know if you actually want to hear what I have to say without putting a box around what you’re prepared to hear.
I honestly would love to understand where you’re coming from, but until I understand why you’re so convinced I’m saying something I’m not, I don’t see how I’ll be able to.
Choose what? If you want to find an instance unscrupulous enough to federate with that company then go for it. Who is stopping you?
People like OP here, begging admin to block it?
Like are you for real? He’s literally asking them to take my choice away.
It is always the admins’ choice, that has never been any different. You are free to choose which instance you are part of.
This petition changes nothing about that.
“We need to defederate from them” is not a petition…
Also, you could just choose not to subscribe to them, go to a place where they are defederated, or even just block them yourself with the right apps.
That’s a whole lot of choice for you in a platform based around decentralization and user choice.
But on the flip side if you just make everyone defederate them, then you’re removing user choice completely just based on your personal feelings on the matter.
That doesn’t seem fair to me just because you personally hate something that I don’t.
We’re not making anyone do anything. This is a pledge for admins to volunteer for, to send a message that this instance won’t be welcome. There are going to be pariah instances, that’s the nature of federation. If you can’t find an instance to follow that federates with them, then that just means the thing you want is deeply, deeply unpopular.
If you care enough, you could join their instance. You could start your own instance and federate with them. Go for it. If and when your own instance becomes a pariah I’m sure you’ll whine about people taking away your freedom to be an asshole at them online, because nobody can make you learn a lessom you’re clearly set on not learning.
MFer how you expect me to find any if you keep going around begging them to wholesale block access.
Just don’t subscribe to it, or block it yourself! You don’t get to decide for everyone else what content they can access here
Your complete unresponsiveness to anything I’ve said leads me to ask a very simple and basic question: are you actually curious to understand my answer to your question?
Yeah bro I’m super curious why you get to decide for all of us what content we can see here. Please answer that I guess?
See what you did there? You didn’t admit to being curious to understand what I’m saying. You dictated what you think I’m saying, then reframed your answer around that.
In effect, you appear to not be curious to understand me because you believe you already do.
If you actually were curious to understand, then the reply, “I don’t get to decide for all of you what content you can see here” would be deeply alarming. It might cause you to stop and take stock, and wonder why I don’t agree with your characterisation of what I have said.
Let me know if you actually want to hear what I have to say without putting a box around what you’re prepared to hear.
I honestly would love to understand where you’re coming from, but until I understand why you’re so convinced I’m saying something I’m not, I don’t see how I’ll be able to.